Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

We are working on both a Statement of Faith for the site and a Plan of Salvation. Come on in and gives us your input.

Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby andrwfields on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:36 pm

I'm with Sam. BUMP!

Let's just do a brass tax deal and be done with it. I think the problem was that we put too much thought into it originally.
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Postby lobo on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:56 am

RevSears wrote:To me that's pretty simple. If it was water that saved us then we could just dunk anyone and the water or the act of Baptism would be glorified not God for his grace.


My pastor often says that "You can get baptized without getting saved, but you'll just come up a wet sinner..." :)
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Postby RevSears on Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:17 am

lobo wrote:
RevSears wrote:To me that's pretty simple. If it was water that saved us then we could just dunk anyone and the water or the act of Baptism would be glorified not God for his grace.


My pastor often says that "You can get baptized without getting saved, but you'll just come up a wet sinner..." :)

that's a good one lobo. A lot of people do this to. I've had to baptize a couple of folks who the first time just got wet and not saved.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby andrwfields on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:01 pm

I propose that those interested write their own rough draft of a Plan of Salvation and have it up by next Wednesday.

We take a look over those. Combine them. And prune parts we can't all agree on.

We'll pick somebody to write up a final draft, and be done with it.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby RevSears on Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:45 pm

Andy i really like the fire in your Belly Lately.
working Purposel: (will edit later, just taking a break from homework right now)

To be Saved one must first admit that they are a sinner, by that it means they have done things that God has instructed man through his laws not do. The Bible tells us that "none are righteous" and we have all broken these laws. The person must then ask that Jesus come into their heart, saving them from their sins, and becoming their Lord. This salvation comes through God's Grace.

This salvation will result in the Holy Spirit entering their lives and as a result, their behavior will change. Baptism is first command to obey for a new believer, some even believe this is a necessary part of salvation. This site recommends a saved person gets Baptized as soon as possible and becomes a member of a local congregation of believers.




I'd like somehow to include baptize as a highly important but admit that is debated a bit on the board, yet either way it must be done. This would show although some of disagree on wither it is part of salvation or not (I strongly hold that it isn't) it is clearly important and needs to be done asap.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby Matthew on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:59 am

RevSears wrote:Andy i really like the fire in your Belly Lately.
working Purposel: (will edit later, just taking a break from homework right now)

To be Saved one must first admit that they are a sinner, by that it means they have done things that God has instructed man through his laws not do. The Bible tells us that "none are righteous" and we have all broken these laws. The person must then ask that Jesus come into their heart, saving them from their sins, and becoming their Lord. This salvation comes through God's Grace.

This salvation will result in the Holy Spirit entering their lives and as a result, their behavior will change. Baptism is first command to obey for a new believer, some even believe this is a necessary part of salvation. This site recommends a saved person gets Baptized as soon as possible and becomes a member of a local congregation of believers.




I'd like somehow to include baptize as a highly important but admit that is debated a bit on the board, yet either way it must be done. This would show although some of disagree on wither it is part of salvation or not (I strongly hold that it isn't) it is clearly important and needs to be done asap.


I agree totally on all sides. My only addition would to have more links to specific scriptures.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby andrwfields on Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:09 pm

Here goes mine:

A4O Plan for Salvation

Many people in their lifetimes will ask somewhere along the way, “I wonder if I’ll go to heaven?” Many people will tell themselves that they might get in if they do a lot of good deeds. Sadly, this is not the case.

To gain access to heaven, to know God, and to be a Christian we must all acknowledge the four following things: God is everywhere and all powerful, We’re born into sin, Sin separates us from God, and Jesus is the way we gain Salvation.

We’ll give an explanation and use the bible as a reference.

God is everywhere and all powerful.

God is the one who started it all. He is more powerful than any being that has ever been or ever will be. He created the world, he created man, and he gave us a chance to know him. The proof is in the product.

*Romans 1:20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

We’re born into sin.
Unfortunately, sin is a part of every life from the beginning. The sin started the moment Adam and Eve took the first bite of the forbidden fruit. Your friends have sinned, your parents have sinned, even your pastor has sinned. We’re not able to be apart from it.

*Romans 5:12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
*Romans 3:23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

Sin separates us from God.
It’s the thing that God hates most. Our sins cause the Lord great sorrow and pain. He wants us to be righteous, but our sins prevent us from being righteous. Every time we steal, we covet, we take God’s name in vain, and commit adultery it’s like shooting an arrow at God’s heart.

*Isaiah 59:2 It’s your sins that have cut you off from God. Because of your sins, he has turned away and will not listen anymore.

Jesus is the way we gain Salvation.
The most popular verse from the bible is John 3:16. For God so loved the world… Jesus was sent to earth because we could not pay the debt of our sins. There was nothing we could do to make ourselves worthy before God. God sent his son, an innocent, to take our places so that we could gain access to Heaven.

*John 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
*1 John 5:11-12 And this is what God has testified: He has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have God’s Son does not have life.

If you believe all of these things to be facts, you are well on your way to being saved. The only thing left to do is accept Christ as your savior and pray. We recommend something along the lines of:

“God, I know that I have sinned. I know that these sins have caused you great pains, and for that, I am sorry. Please forgive me and help me avoid sinning again. I know that you sent your son, Jesus Christ to die for my sins and take the place that should have been mine on the cross. I thank you for that. I know that Jesus was condemned, beaten and whipped, was crucified, died, was buried, and rose from the grave three days later. I invite Christ to come into my heart and be the Lord of my life. For all these things, I thank you Lord. Amen.”


If you did pray this prayer or one like it, Congratulations! We are proud, happy, and honored to have you as a brother or sister in Christ. Accepting Christ as your savior is one of the best and most important things you'll ever do with your life. Here are some guidelines for what you should do next:

Tell someone that you've accepted Christ! We're happy to hear it, so let us know!

Get baptized if you can. This is a sign of faith in Christ.
*Matthew 28:18-19 Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Get involved in church!
*Hebrews 10:25 And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near.

Pray regularly. Pray whenever you think of it!
*Philippians 4:6 Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done.

Last but surely not least: Welcome to the family.

*NOTE* All scripture references from NLT.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby Matthew on Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:46 am

I like it. It's every day language, but packed with the Word.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby andrwfields on Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:11 pm

Lol, it only took 2 hours a night for 4 nights to figure out how I wanted to word it.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby RevSears on Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:34 pm

Andy you get my vote. I had intended to come back and work on mine but never got the chance in the move. Don't see a reason to know, I really like it.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby andrwfields on Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:56 am

I won't vote for myself because I don't think that would be fair.

I leave it up to everyone else and more importantly, Chad and Matt.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby chad_ghost on Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:51 pm

Looks good. I'll talk with Matt on how we can integrate this into the site.
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby RevSears on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:26 am

Did we ever progress further on this?
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Re: Working on the site's Plan of Salvation

Postby Matthew on Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:44 am

RevSears wrote:Did we ever progress further on this?


Maybe?

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